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Crichton333

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Well there was a Admob showcase or something at Google campus and they said you DO NOT have to put that message if you dont use COOKIES and the ban bot wont flag it.

Message is only for web apps, or apps that open webpages and use cookies.

You can see the original post at the Making Money with Android forum, its down now so I cant copy paste the full post.

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Thanks for the info.
It's also cool to hear that Chartboost is safe in terms of this policy update.
So we don't need to do anything? [tongue]

If this is so important, I wonder why Apple or Amazon don't mention/require this eu policy?

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Thanks for the info.
It's also cool to hear that Chartboost is safe in terms of this policy update.
So we don't need to do anything? [tongue]

I wonder why Apple or Amazon don't mention/require this eu policy?



Because a company named Google got sued by the European Union, not a company named Chartboost or Amazon or Apple...

I have no idea how this panic spread over Google and WEB PAGES that need a cookie pop up message.

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Guys pls dont spread random information, google listed all you have to know on their website:

http://www.cookiechoices.org/


They even got the code for implementation there.



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Because a company named Google got sued by the European Union, not a company named Chartboost or Amazon or Apple...

I have no idea how this panic spread over Google and WEB PAGES that need a cookie pop up message.



Its an European law and if Google or Apple or whatever company doesnt make sure that alle the users who use their marketplaces (like us) make sure that app users are okay with the usage of cookies they can get sued for it, so changes will come to the other stores soon too.

AND, i think thats it mutch less work to implement the little pop-up massage NOW than try to revert an app-suspension from google wich normaly takes months to do !



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Thanks for the info.
It's also cool to hear that Chartboost is safe in terms of this policy update.
So we don't need to do anything? [tongue]

I wonder why Apple or Amazon don't mention/require this eu policy?



Btw. why you asking chartboost if its safe ? you gonna need to ask google if its save to use chartboost ads without a private policy after the 30. September.




You know google i dont know if their bots are gonna make a difference between chartboost and other ad networks since there are mutch more ad networks who use cookies than ad networks who dont use them.

I think google gonna use bots (like they always do) and they gonna think like this:
If Ads ingame = true
{
           If get private policy link = false
           {
              suspend app = true
           }
           else
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Guys pls dont spread random information


 http://www.cookiechoices.org/
clearly mentions both Android and iOS and even gives example codes,
also,
it clearly gives to example notification texts, one for cookies (websites/web apps) and one for apps (device identifiers).


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A Dev from an another forum got an answer from google so i post it here.

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This is the answer I got from my account manager at Google:

Unfortunately we can not give legal advice on this matter as it is not a Google initiative but a EU one, I can help you to gather more information that could be useful, as Admob is also affected. (My interpretation of this is that it means that there are other ad networks wich are also affected.)

Please refer to this page for information about how Google uses cookies in advertising.

And here you can check some sample notifications that may be applicable listed on http://cookiechoices.org.
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No, its not that simple if you have many apps spreaded across different marketplaces.

Also, as far as i remember to read device identifier you must have Read_Phone_State permission added in manifest. (Correct me if im wrong)

Chartboost don't use cookies and don't have the above permission.
Also guys from support are claiming it's safe, so i have a reason to believe them [tongue]
On Apple they are using IDFA, on google - advertising id.

If this was an important issue, what i don't see any alert/warning on developer console...
I think you are exaggerating guys [tongue]
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I'll just leave this here [smile] 


"I can confirm that apps don't need to comply with the Google EU cookie policy (yet). This week I was at Google for an Admob workshop with several of their key account managers present. There were a bunch of other developers their too and of course this question was asked. 

The Admob guys said that several of their big accounts also asked this same question. The account managers therefor have double checked it with headquarters.

They said that "Admob users with Apps" do not need to worry about this policy (yet). Yes apps are included in their policy, but the EU law is not very clear on apps and device identifiers. Therefor, for now Google priority are only sites that uses cookies and if you have apps that uses cookies (because you load web content) than you will need to comply too, but most apps will use the advertising device identifier. 

They did state that this might change in the future, but for now don't worry about this, Admob won't be hunting down your apps to see if you complied. 

I think that's why there is no mentioning of Admob in the policy mail and why some didn't get the email at all. Also there is no notification of this in the Admob dashboard. It's just not a priority."

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I'll just leave this here [smile] 


"I can confirm that apps don't need to comply with the Google EU cookie policy (yet). This week I was at Google for an Admob workshop with several of their key account managers present. There were a bunch of other developers their too and of course this question was asked. 

The Admob guys said that several of their big accounts also asked this same question. The account managers therefor have double checked it with headquarters.

They said that "Admob users with Apps" do not need to worry about this policy (yet). Yes apps are included in their policy, but the EU law is not very clear on apps and device identifiers. Therefor, for now Google priority are only sites that uses cookies and if you have apps that uses cookies (because you load web content) than you will need to comply too, but most apps will use the advertising device identifier. 

They did state that this might change in the future, but for now don't worry about this, Admob won't be hunting down your apps to see if you complied. 

I think that's why there is no mentioning of Admob in the policy mail and why some didn't get the email at all. Also there is no notification of this in the Admob dashboard. It's just not a priority."


Thank you Crichton333!
I am so impressed with google's communication skills - so the only way to know this was to actually be in some closed meeting? Honestly, this is. wow, just wow

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I've interpreted the (very confusing and vague) documentation the same way as Chrichton. I'm not going to be updating my apps at this point, hopefully this doesn't backfire but that's a risk I'm willing to take. 
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Thanks Crichton333 for the message but this theme is getting more and more confusing with google´s contrary answeres in the last week´s about this topic :x

But im still worried about the message google is sending out in their http://www.cookiechoices.org/ website, that you must do the cookies stuff :/
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I asked Chartboost support team and the reply is this policy only applies to desktop web-site or mobile web app (which means you can open web-viewer and browse internet content in the app), mobile game publishers is out of range, so don't need to do any change

but another network told me that they don't know if this gonna be a huge issue or not, yet if you want to feel safe you can just add one-time launch dialog in your game tell the player this app use advertising ID to show ad, click OK to play, if player click Cancel button then they won't get into the game until they click OK

I think the core problem here is that this policy is very vague, unclear by the policy itself (maybe the policy itself is just a rush rule)
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